"Honeybunchesofgoats" (honeybunche0fgoats)
03/24/2019 at 20:29 • Filed to: None
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"Honeybunchesofgoats" (honeybunche0fgoats)
03/24/2019 at 20:29 • Filed to: None | 2
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Apparently, they’re not even sold through TireRack. The closest thing to a review I’ve seen is this:
Basically, last year I hit a pothole that punctured the sidewall. I needed tires ASAP, and the only thing the place I went to had was this garbage. Since two were basically the price of one not-garbage tire, I figured, whatever, and had the rears swapped to the front and had these put on in the rear.
It not even that they don’t have wet traction, because they don’t. None. At all. It’s that they don’t even grip on dry surfaces. Honestly, combined with no traction control, it’s kind of fun, but I’d still like something I could actually use in the rain without being constantly on edge.
Anyway, they’re not even close to the wear bars, but my fronts are getting there, so I may as well just replace them too. I currently have Hankook Ventus Evo2s on the front, and I’m inclined to just get those again, since a full set would be under $500.
I have Pirelli P7s on the Jag, which I love, but apparently they’re only available in run-flats in 205/45R17 and cost close to $200 each, which is way too much, as they wear really fast.
Any suggestions for either Summer or All-Season? Preferably under $150/tire.
sn4cktimes
> Honeybunchesofgoats
03/24/2019 at 20:39 |
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I’ve had real hit or miss experiences with Kumho tires. Had a set way back when on my GM Sonoma, they were great. Even in the winter. Had a set on my Veloster Turbo, utter crap. I can’t remember the models though. My winter tires have tended to be Nokian Hakka’s and studded.
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Honeybunchesofgoats
> sn4cktimes
03/24/2019 at 20:45 |
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Yeah, I don’t have any experience with Kumho. I’m not so concerned with winters, because winter duty goes to the Jag (if there’s no salt yet) or the Town Car (if there is), plus I use all-seasons, like a monster.
Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
> Honeybunchesofgoats
03/24/2019 at 20:45 |
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Check out
M
ichelins over at Costco. I didn’t really care for the stock Bridgestones, and the Firestones I had
next were a step below that, but these M
ichelins are grippy,
quiet and have a long treadwear rating. I couldn't be happier.
dogisbadob
> Honeybunchesofgoats
03/24/2019 at 20:46 |
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If you must stick with 205/45-17, get the Vredestein Ultrac Satin. They are only $114 per tire at Vulcan Tire
Also, the real problem is that 205/45-17 has no sidewall! Even a little pothole can turn something like that into a balloon in no time!
The good news is that you can use the size 190/60-15 which has the same diameter, and a real sidewall that won’t cry at the smallest divot :o)
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Honeybunchesofgoats
> Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
03/24/2019 at 20:47 |
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That’s a good idea. Pilot Sports seem well-reviewed.
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dogisbadob
> sn4cktimes
03/24/2019 at 20:47 |
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Were the Kumhos on the
Veloster the original tires? Because OE tires almost always suck no matter who makes them. They are made different than tires sold at retail,
even those
with the same name.
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Honeybunchesofgoats
> dogisbadob
03/24/2019 at 20:50 |
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I’m all for giving shit to putting low-profile tires on everything, but these are for the Miata, though, so no sidewall kind of comes with the territory.
I’m not familiar with Vredestein, but the reviews seems to say that braking is awful.
bhtooefr
> Honeybunchesofgoats
03/24/2019 at 20:55 |
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Still, you could go to 16s at least, 195/50R16 would help with potholes (or apparently people run 205/50R16 or 225/45R16 for better performance).
Poor_Sh
> Honeybunchesofgoats
03/24/2019 at 20:55 |
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Weird, I was just writing up my post about my tires and didn’t see this until I’d posted. I don’t have any suggestions I just thought this coincidence was interesting. :P
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Honeybunchesofgoats
> Poor_Sh
03/24/2019 at 21:01 |
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I saw the same thing and wondered if the rear/front thing got you thinking about it.
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Honeybunchesofgoats
> bhtooefr
03/24/2019 at 21:03 |
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Eh, it’s honestly the only time a pothole has ever cost me a tire, so I’m not too concerned about them.
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Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
> Honeybunchesofgoats
03/24/2019 at 21:10 |
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Mine aren’t even performance tires, just all-seasons. I’ve had no problem with snow or rain; admittedly it doesn’t snow that much around here, not like Chicago or Detroit, but I haven’t been concerned about the snow performance, especially compared to the Bridgestones.
sony1492
> Honeybunchesofgoats
03/24/2019 at 21:15 |
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The 215/45zr17 Michelin Pilot Sport a/s 3+ on my Mini have been quite good. They are confident in the rain, can handle cold roads(light snow, sleet), and in the dry they grip well for 5-6 /10 driving.
Looks like they are right in budget too
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dogisbadob
> Honeybunchesofgoats
03/24/2019 at 21:17 |
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It will certainly be better than the Kellys you have now! Almost any summer tire will be better than most all-seasons, especially cheap A/S
!
You may also want to consider the Nexen N’Fera SU1. They’re only
$80 in your size, so you can even buy a couple
extras to keep as spares!
Goggles Pizzano
> Honeybunchesofgoats
03/24/2019 at 21:20 |
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Best/worst tire I’ve had was the Pirelli P4 Four Seasons (what ever that is), narrow spec. Most tires had a pattern like this:
But if they were below a certain width (in my case 195) the design would lack the center strip and only have the inner and outer strips with a larger channel in the center. It was like running 4 motorcycle tires on the rear. Fun in the wet with 100hp, but unusable in the snow.
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Honeybunchesofgoats
> Goggles Pizzano
03/24/2019 at 21:31 |
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The p7s on my Jag are very similar. They were the best tires I’ve ever had new, but once they started to wear–and they wear fast–they’re garbage.
Jayvincent
> Honeybunchesofgoats
03/24/2019 at 21:32 |
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Tire rack has lots of options...
On the cheap end, Hankook Ventus or Cooper Zeon both have 500 treadwear and good reviews.
Goodyear eagle sports and Yokohama Advan Sport are mid-range with slightly lower treadwear ratings (and approx. more grip)
High end are Pirelli P-Zeros with 220 treadwear and lots of grip but less comfortable in the wet
Me? I’d go with the Yoko Advan sports for $116 each (I’ve owned them before on a heavier car than yours and was satisfied with aggressive street performance)
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Jayvincent
> Jayvincent
03/24/2019 at 21:32 |
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possible double post, because kinja - sorry
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Honeybunchesofgoats
> Jayvincent
03/24/2019 at 21:37 |
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I like the Yokohama option and they seem really well-rounded.
John
> Honeybunchesofgoats
03/24/2019 at 22:52 |
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If you don't run Michelins you are putting yourself and your family at risk. Don't skimp on tires...they are the only thing touching the road.
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sn4cktimes
> dogisbadob
03/24/2019 at 23:10 |
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Oh yeah. Definitely what the car came with.
Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
> Honeybunchesofgoats
03/24/2019 at 23:13 |
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Bridgstone Blizzak WS80's and run them 12 months a year.
Tohru
> Honeybunchesofgoats
03/24/2019 at 23:41 |
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Hell, it sounds like even
some shitball Douglas Xtra-Tracs from Walmart would be better than those Kellys.
Tyrease
> Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
03/24/2019 at 23:56 |
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Michelins are the best tires around unless your looking for something that's going to last you awhile based on how your driving
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Tyrease
> sn4cktimes
03/24/2019 at 23:58 |
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Nokian makes the best snow tires and they get great ratings even though they aren’t made in the USA
G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
> Honeybunchesofgoats
03/25/2019 at 01:54 |
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I’d recommend Firestone Firehawk Indy 500s. Everyone I know who’s had them has loved them and they’ve felt fantastic on every car I’ve driven with them equipped. I was so impressed by them that I bought a set myself to run on my JDM Autech wheels this summer.
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> Honeybunchesofgoats
03/25/2019 at 02:17 |
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Conti DWS. You will not find a better tire for the money. It performs well in every situation, lasts a long time, and doesn’t tend to wear unevenly. My only other recommendation is the Michelin AS3+. It’s about the same as the DWS, but more sport oriented and not quite as good in snow. It does cost more though. I run DWS on my own cars and have for years, and also recommend them to anyone who asks, regardless of what they drive. Everyone that I’ve talked to about them loves them. I’ve personally experienced them outperform dedicated summer tires and dedicated snow tires in their intended conditions. I have 35 series sidewalls on wheels that are known to crack in a city with shit roads and have never had an issue with any of that either. I s ee tons of tires come through my shop every day, and I don’t recommend anything but those two for all seasons.
pip bip - choose Corrour
> Honeybunchesofgoats
03/25/2019 at 04:54 |
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Kumho?
Uncle Bubba
> Honeybunchesofgoats
03/25/2019 at 06:20 |
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I’ve never owned a Goodyear tire that was good. Every last one Ive ever bought was trash and seemed to come on every Chrysler new since it was an American company. I now stick with Michelin, Hankook if I want cheaper. Ko2’s if you have a truck that sees dirt. In the Michigan snow and slurpee the Defender range of Michelins do well, last, are comfortable and quiet. My 2 cents.
Maxx
> Honeybunchesofgoats
03/25/2019 at 07:21 |
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Having in the tire industry for 12 years, and being somewhat familiar with the Kelly edges, I can say they’re not nearly as bad as what you’re describing. then again if you go read tire rack reviews they’re filled with people loving and hating the exact same tire for any number of reasons some of which are more related to their car and not to the tire itself.
But yes comparing an entry-level mid mileage rated all-season tire to an ultra high performance summer tire is kind of like complaining that your Camry doesn’t handle as well as your Mazda Miata and it’s the worst car you’ve ever owned because of that. It’s a bit dramatic.
The Kelly’s are actually quite a bit better than some of the real bottom-of-the-barrel tires out there. Like pepboys definity hp100's, a rebrand of a linglong tire that has zero, none, nothing for siping once the first 2/32in tread wears off and becomes 4 straight bars of tread for an all season tires.
If you primarily drive your Mazda in the summer I personally would go with an ultra high performance summer tire from a name brand you like and just avoid driving in temperatures below 32 degrees. If you must drive it in the winter/cold then get a new set of steel wheels in a smaller diameter that fits your car and a set of 4 x-ice or nokians for winter use.
Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness
> Honeybunchesofgoats
03/25/2019 at 07:29 |
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OMG Kelly tires are utter shit. Makes sense they’re made by Goodyear. They were on the Monte Carlo we got from my ma. That car was downright dangerous on anything but dry pavement and even that was sketchy. I honestly thought the car needed the whole suspension/brakes/etc replaced.
Swapped them for some Primewell PS850s as my ma wanted her wheels back. Holy shit, night and day difference. No more banging over bumps, no more sketchy braking, no more slipping and sliding. Those Kellys and Goodyears have been the worst tires I’ve ever owned.
As to suggestions, check out Cooper/General, I’ve had very good luck with them. Otherwise Bridgestone or Nitto?
Roundbadge
> Honeybunchesofgoats
03/25/2019 at 07:44 |
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I put a set of General Altimax RT43s on my Tacoma (2wd, only off-roads in my front yard) and love them so far, though I’ve only done maybe 7k miles on them.
Goodyear bought Kelly in the 1930's, so I don’t find it hard to believe the statement that Goodyear brands their bottom-of-the-barrel as Kelly.
BigBlock440
> Honeybunchesofgoats
03/25/2019 at 08:53 |
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I’ve had a good experience with the General Altimax RT43s I used on my DD a few years ago . I can’t say too much about dry weather performance, I had no complaints but it wasn’t something I was auto crossing or anything , but snow performance was very good. They were pretty reasonable too, I’d buy again.
Sir Halffast
> Honeybunchesofgoats
03/25/2019 at 09:15 |
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If you have a nearby Costco, you should hit them up. Tire prices are reasonable, usually cheaper than Tire Rack once you account for install, and they carry only top brands (Michelin, Bridgestone, couple others). They also give free rotations/balancing for the life of the tires, and you don’t have to pay extra for any of the (should be) standard warranties.
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Sir Halffast
> Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
03/25/2019 at 09:16 |
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A late and hearty second to this comment.
wkiernan
> Honeybunchesofgoats
03/25/2019 at 09:39 |
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If you want summer tires, I’m told these are pretty good:
This is the Firestone Firehawk Indy 500, which is supposedly a rebranded Bridgestone sold in the U.S.A. They’re not super-expensive and I see a lot of good reviews on line. I’m thinking of getting some in your size
for my ‘09 Miata.
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wkiernan
> bhtooefr
03/25/2019 at 09:53 |
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I bought my Miata used, so I took the wheels that came with it, but I’d prefer 16s instead of 17s too. I’d trade that top edge of p
er
formance for fewer worries about potholes and curbs.
It runs the price up a lot
though, if you have to buy new wheels as well as new tires. S
o I guess I’ll stick with the
Big Wheelz
™ it came with
.
MattHurting
> Roundbadge
03/25/2019 at 11:39 |
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I’ve had the Altimax RT43s on my Outback and recently replaced them with General GMax AS-05 and like those as well.